The title "Web Designer" or "Web Developer"

I claim both.

I have built a portfolio of six clients offering web design and web development. My clients are happy campers.

The problem here is I didn’t design anything, nor did I develop.

I use WP and purchase crisp clean themes, add in content, re-arrange widgets, make very little revisions to the files, just enough to change the footer to say "Professionally Developed by [My Site].

So am I more of a web builder?

I wouldn’t use the term web builder. If the client has no idea how you do things, i’d say you’re a web design and developer, though there is probably a better title I just can’t think of now.

I’d say you’d fit right in here at offtopic.com.

Dont call yourself a web builder ever. Just use the term developer. In the past I’d probably frown upon calling anyone who just installs templates a developer, but anymore it seems it is what it is.

I was going to say this.

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On another note, I don’t think it’s a good idea to market yourself as a "jack-of-all" trades. One, single entity claiming they know everything is sign if incompetency, just due to the nature that it’s pretty rare for a good developer to also be a good designer and vise verse.

When I used to build websites for smb I used to market myself as a full-on agency, a team of experts with their own area of expertise, even though it was just me and an occasional friend I would coax into doing design work or copywriting for me. It gives your clients the perspective that they don’t have to worry about you getting your shit done, which is simply done with a bit of over-communication.

On another note, I don’t think it’s a good idea to market yourself as a "jack-of-all" trades. One, single entity claiming they know everything is sign if incompetency, just due to the nature that it’s pretty rare for a good developer to also be a good designer and vise verse.

When I used to build websites for smb I used to market myself as a full-on agency, a team of experts with their own area of expertise, even though it was just me and an occasional friend I would coax into doing design work or copywriting for me. It gives your clients the perspective that they don’t have to worry about you getting your shit done, which is simply done with a bit of over-communication.

I agree with this.

The problem I think is with the client, who doesn’t understand that there are a lot of different parts of a website.

They think all they need is a designer, when there’s copy writing, graphic design, development (mode advanced sites obviously), and maybe even SEO. I’m probably missing something here.

To a layperson say you’re a web developer. IMO getting by on wordpress isn’t a bad thing. If you can hack your themes and get people to buy in on your services then hell you’re a web developer.

You’ll get shit by other real web developers but they’re not the ones paying you so who gives a shit.

you shouldn’t say developer if you’re not, and you’re definitely not. you’re just gonna give laypeople a poor impression of real web developers.

Just because you can change your own oil doesn’t make you a mechanic.

If you use some one else’s site/blog/cms engine then your a web designer, if you write your own, call yourself a developer.

no.

yes.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. I know many developers that use frameworks and engines that are capable of writing scripts that will end your job/life. In fact, every developer I know utilizes frameworks and CMS engines. I don’t know any "purists" anymore that choose to code everything from scratch. I did know many during the early days of my development career, but not anymore. In fact, I’d think you’re a terrible developer if you told me you chose to code everything from scratch.

Plenty of developers use a CMS, doesn’t make their title any less meaningful.

dumb troll is dumb.

When you say framework do you mean django or do you mean drupal?

Exactly

Do you live life to care what others think, or do you live to make money.

There’s a such a low threshold for people to get into web development but it really takes time to perfect your craft.

I like to use the analogy someone trying to play the bass.

It’s pretty easy to get started but takes time and patience to actually be a really good bassist.

If you play in a band your bassist. A really shitty bassist but a bassist none the less.

They’re both frameworks. Drupal is a content management framework. The "CMS" side of Drupal is a module that extends the frameworks functionality allowable through it’s PAC architecture.

I don’t see the relevance of what’s being discussed in your question.

They’re both frameworks. Drupal is a content management framework. The "CMS" side of Drupal is a module that extends the frameworks functionality allowable through it’s PAC architecture.

I don’t see the relevance of what’s being discussed in your question.

There isn’t any. He thinks you need to be chipping away at code all day and call something original to be a developer. If that was the case, there would only be about 50 developers in the world.