Ok, I was made a mod in here and I am trying to get more topics going so it can be more helpful in here about web design and what not
Recently I have started to use Sublime Text 2, the reason is because I can use it both on my PC Desktop and my Macbook Pro and I have heard a lot of good things about it
I used to use that, and then notepad++
I use (free through EAP, $100 for stable releases, $59 when on sale) for PHP, HTML, JavaScript, and CSS. I use (free) for everything else.
If you don’t need the PHP support, (normally $69, on sale now for $49) is a great cheaper alternative.
I pity you guys who still don’t use a proper IDE.
PhpStorm is available on Windows, Mac, and Linux
I recently moved to Sublime Text 2 ( Web stuff )
Eclipse ( Java )
VS ( Microsoft stuff )
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I pity you guys who still don’t use a proper IDE.
PhpStorm is available on Windows, Mac, and Linux |
I don’t need a "proper" IDE with TextMate.
try it for a week and then tell me that you want to go back to a text editor
What is EAP?
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No.
And I was ing you because you’re in here getting all righteous over a personal preference. |
I don’t think there is a right or wrong answer except if someone answered with dreamweaver or frontpage
Early Access Program. Basically a beta. You have to update the software every week or so, but you can use it free.
They also have a 30 day trial, though, so there’s no reason that someone can’t check it out and try it for a real project.
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Early Access Program. Basically a beta. You have to update the software every week or so, but you can use it free.
They also have a 30 day trial, though, so there’s no reason that someone can’t check it out and try it for a real project. |
Ok, thanks, getting ready to start a new website for a client, may try it out and see how it is
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No.
And I was ing you because you’re in here getting all righteous over a personal preference. |
One halfhearted sentence is "getting all righteous"?
The point of the thread was to share personal preferences. I’ve used almost all of the text editors mentioned here (and quite a few more), so I might be in a unique position to share my preference. A few years ago, there weren’t any good IDEs for web development (and I assume that’s why Pepsi wrote "text editors" in the thread title), but there are now.
Ah, dreamweaver here. Also Aptana, depending on my mood.
Textmate for most things, for some larger sites I use eclipse
My coworker uses Dreamweaver as his editor.. its actually not terrible once you hide all the bullshit panels and menus
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One halfhearted sentence is "getting all righteous"?
The point of the thread was to share personal preferences. I’ve used almost all of the text editors mentioned here (and quite a few more), so I might be in a unique position to share my preference. A few years ago, there weren’t any good IDEs for web development (and I assume that’s why Pepsi wrote "text editors" in the thread title), but there are now. |
Truthfully I never even thought of them when making this topic, because everything I have tried or heard about in the past was garbage, but I am willing to try a new one to see how it is
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Textmate for most things, for some larger sites I use eclipse
My coworker uses Dreamweaver as his editor.. its actually not terrible once you hide all the bullshit panels and menus |
I used dreamweaver years ago, and that is what I learned on, but it was a crutch, I had to get rid of it to really get better at what I was doing
how so?
all the drop down menus, you don’t need to remember code, the design window, and so on
i broke myself of by going to straight up notebook, forcing myself to code a site myself, it was the best thing I did
It’s slow as shit.
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I’m pretty sure we’ve all used just about all of the ones mentioned in this thread so far. I know I have, including phpStorm.
And yes, you’re "getting all righteous" when you condescendingly say, "I pity you guys…" You "pity" people because they don’t have the same taste as you? Fuck that shit. |
I pity you because you’re retarded.
Btw, whatup Stormy. How your Drupal skills coming along?
I’ve been doing drupal dev full time for about a year and a half, and I do drupal admin training occasionally. I do all of my work now for big companies, so I spend about as much time planning and in meetings as I do developing, but it’s been a healthy learning experience. I <3 drupal7
I need to pick up another framework, but I haven’t had time to give kohana another shot. what about you? what’s the next big thing?
lol arguing over IDEs for "scripting" languages.
I use Smultron on my Mac, and Notepad++ on my PC. With Cyberduck on both together for quick editing.
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I’ve been doing drupal dev full time for about a year and a half, and I do drupal admin training occasionally. I do all of my work now for big companies, so I spend about as much time planning and in meetings as I do developing, but it’s been a healthy learning experience. I <3 drupal7
I need to pick up another framework, but I haven’t had time to give kohana another shot. what about you? what’s the next big thing? |
Oh, right on. To think I used to help you with Drupal, and now you’re probably better at it than I. That shit makes me proud. Haven’t touched it in a year. Been doing mostly front-end web development. Architecting and contributing to some fairly API’s and infrastructures. Mostly within organization, though.
As far as PHP frameworks, still a Kohana fan. Old habits don’t die I guess.
notepad++ but most of the time dreamweaver for web design
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If you’re trying to pickup another framework because you’re interested in something new and different, then give Symfony2 a shot. Be warned that it’s a fairly unique framework, and it doesn’t help that its sponsor is a French company and therefore English documentation tends to lag behind the latest and greatest. I’ve only casually messed with it. All I can really say at this point is that it’s different and interesting. I wouldn’t recommend it for a project that has a deadline, though, at least not until one is familiar with it.
The "inspired by Rails" frameworks are a dime a dozen these days. CodeIgniter has been referred to as "the jQuery of PHP," but I think that’s giving it far too much credit. In reality, although it might be the most well documented as easiest to pick up for beginners, it’s far from being the most efficient. One that started off with promise but seems to have died is Lithium. Hydrogen was another one that I used, but it never got out of alpha. At any rate, the new hotness in design patterns is HMVC, which is utilized in the newest version of Kohana as well as a newcomer, FuelPHP. The Kohana community has been a little resentful of FuelPHP because the two frameworks are so similar, which raises the question, "Why didn’t you just contribute to Kohana instead of trying to start a new framework?" At any rate, I really like FuelPHP’s "oil" concept quite a bit. I think that was really clever and it gives FuelPHP and edge in terms of catering to RAD (something I became quite partial to after using Lithium). |
I mentioned Kohana specifically because I know kingtoad has used it. I first saw him mention it when it was still pretty new and unknown, so I was wondering if he’d stuck with it.
I’ve tried Cake, Symfony, Kohana and CodeIgniter (I think in that order). I suppose I’ve been spoiled having used Drupal for so long because I was turned off by the comparatively poor documentation of all of those other frameworks. Cake’s documentation especially kept getting worse and worse. It looks like Lithium’s at least more accessible than it was when I last checked it out, though. The documentation used to only be like 10 pages and half of them were dead.
I’ll get back around to Kohana eventually.
lol arguing over IDEs for "scripting" languages.
I use Smultron on my Mac, and Notepad++ on my PC. With Cyberduck on both together for quick editing.
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I’ve been doing drupal dev full time for about a year and a half, and I do drupal admin training occasionally. I do all of my work now for big companies, so I spend about as much time planning and in meetings as I do developing, but it’s been a healthy learning experience. I <3 drupal7
I need to pick up another framework, but I haven’t had time to give kohana another shot. what about you? what’s the next big thing? |
Oh, right on. To think I used to help you with Drupal, and now you’re probably better at it than I. That shit makes me proud. Haven’t touched it in a year. Been doing mostly front-end web development. Architecting and contributing to some fairly API’s and infrastructures. Mostly within organization, though.
As far as PHP frameworks, still a Kohana fan. Old habits don’t die I guess.
notepad++ but most of the time dreamweaver for web design
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If you’re trying to pickup another framework because you’re interested in something new and different, then give Symfony2 a shot. Be warned that it’s a fairly unique framework, and it doesn’t help that its sponsor is a French company and therefore English documentation tends to lag behind the latest and greatest. I’ve only casually messed with it. All I can really say at this point is that it’s different and interesting. I wouldn’t recommend it for a project that has a deadline, though, at least not until one is familiar with it.
The "inspired by Rails" frameworks are a dime a dozen these days. CodeIgniter has been referred to as "the jQuery of PHP," but I think that’s giving it far too much credit. In reality, although it might be the most well documented as easiest to pick up for beginners, it’s far from being the most efficient. One that started off with promise but seems to have died is Lithium. Hydrogen was another one that I used, but it never got out of alpha. At any rate, the new hotness in design patterns is HMVC, which is utilized in the newest version of Kohana as well as a newcomer, FuelPHP. The Kohana community has been a little resentful of FuelPHP because the two frameworks are so similar, which raises the question, "Why didn’t you just contribute to Kohana instead of trying to start a new framework?" At any rate, I really like FuelPHP’s "oil" concept quite a bit. I think that was really clever and it gives FuelPHP and edge in terms of catering to RAD (something I became quite partial to after using Lithium). |
I mentioned Kohana specifically because I know kingtoad has used it. I first saw him mention it when it was still pretty new and unknown, so I was wondering if he’d stuck with it.
I’ve tried Cake, Symfony, Kohana and CodeIgniter (I think in that order). I suppose I’ve been spoiled having used Drupal for so long because I was turned off by the comparatively poor documentation of all of those other frameworks. Cake’s documentation especially kept getting worse and worse. It looks like Lithium’s at least more accessible than it was when I last checked it out, though. The documentation used to only be like 10 pages and half of them were dead.
I’ll get back around to Kohana eventually.